Craps Lay Strategy
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*How to Play Craps. Craps is a game where many bettors get to stake their chips on a roll of the dice. The table layout makes the game seem a little confusing at first, but the rules are easy to pick up with experience.
*I noticed a betting strategy for craps suggested at Crappers Delight called ’classic regression’. In it he suggests, placing a 6 and 8, after a point is established. Then taking it down after one of them is hit. He said there are 10 combined ways to make the 6 and 8, but only 6 combined ways to make the 7.
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In new to the forum. But i am a dark player Dont pass and dont come and i lay 4/10. Im looking for a real strategy for laying numbers and also a better dont come approach. Im looking for a lil help on how to approach the bet and if should use a progression or just flat bet it. Any help is great! Best 5 Craps Strategies STRATEGY #1: Using Classic Regression Goal: To earn profit on a single hit. 1) Wait until the shooter establishes a point before placing your bets. 2) Once the point is determined, place $6.00 (two units) on both the 6 and 8 (For a total wager of $12.00). Click on the image above to instantly practice and play free craps in your browser. (Opens in separate window in full screen.). As of 2020, US players are unable to play the craps game listed above. US players please click the banners on the left side (or below for mobile users) to visit free and real-money craps games at US-friendly casinos.This weekend I think I am going to lay only the 6 and 8 for $25 each($50 total) on each come out and either win or let them fall. My bankroll will be $200. If I get a cold table watch out. Hot table I am dead. Any comments?ahiromuI’d be very careful with this strategy, it seems like a sure-fire way to slowly bleed money. If you (lose) one and then seven out, you’re still down $6. Even if you personally get hot, you won’t be making craploads of money.. I think you’d be better off with a don’t pass and one don’t come (a little more strenuous on the bankroll).Its - Possessive; It’s - ’It is’ / ’It has’; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They’re - ’They are’ruascottI’d have to agree. You are making 2 bets with 4% HA and I don’t even see for what reason. The probabilites say that it more than likely that a 6 OR 8 would be rolled before a 7, and therefore you lose. That’s just me though. I HATE betting more than I will win.teddysI like that strategy. Low variance, with the chance to win a bundle if a lot of sevens roll. Plus, you might get rated higher than you would with just line/odds. Let us know how it goes!
Edit: I’m a little confused. Why don’t you just use place bets to lose?’Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe.’ -Rig Veda 10.34.4goatcabin
I’d have to agree. You are making 2 bets with 4% HA and I don’t even see for what reason. The probabilites say that it more than likely that a 6 OR 8 would be rolled before a 7, and therefore you lose. That’s just me though. I HATE betting more than I will win.
1) The HA depends heavily on the rules at the particular casino. If they collect
the vig only after a win, that lowers the HA, but not as much as on buy bets,
since lay bets have >50% chance to win. Also, you are really betting $24 to win
$20, right? If they collect only on a win, they will pay you $19 for a win, take
the $24 if you lose. At this level, the HA is then 2.27%. However, you need to
find out the maximum bet for which they still charge only $1 vig, which may be as high as $36.
2) You are seriously under-capitalized at $200 with $50 on the table. Your risk of ruin is very, very high, about 44% in a sim I ran on WinCraps, 10,000 sessions of up to 60 bets. About 25% of the sessions turned $100 profit or more, up to $774.
I tried an alternate strategy, laying no 6 for $36, assuming a $1 vig collected
only on a win. This yields an HA that is the same as placing the six (1.515%). So, you have a lower HA and less money at risk on each comeout. The bust rate was still high, about 33%, but almost 30% of the time it won at least $100, up to $895, in 60 bets.
The trend towards collecting buy/lay vigs only on a win really tips the scale in favor of buy bets, because they win less than 50% of the time, only 33% for buy 4/10.
Cheers,
Alan ShankCheers, Alan Shank ’How’s that for a squabble, Pugh?’ Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in ’Yellowbeard’ruascott
1) The HA depends heavily on the rules at the particular casino. If they collect
the vig only after a win, that lowers the HA, but not as much as on buy bets,
since lay bets have >50% chance to win. Also, you are really betting $24 to win
$20, right? If they collect only on a win, they will pay you $19 for a win, take
the $24 if you lose. At this level, the HA is then 2.27%. However, you need to
find out the maximum bet for which they still charge only $1 vig, which may be as high as $36.
2) You are seriously under-capitalized at $200 with $50 on the table. Your risk of ruin is very, very high, about 44% in a sim I ran on WinCraps, 10,000 sessions of up to 60 bets. About 25% of the sessions turned $100 profit or more, up to $774.
I tried an alternate strategy, laying no 6 for $36, assuming a $1 vig collected
only on a win. This yields an HA that is the same as placing the six (1.515%). So, you have a lower HA and less money at risk on each comeout. The bust rate was still high, about 33%, but almost 30% of the time it won at least $100, up to $895, in 60 bets.
The trend towards collecting buy/lay vigs only on a win really tips the scale in favor of buy bets, because they win less than 50% of the time, only 33% for buy 4/10.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
I’d agree. I guess that’s why he said if the table was hot he’d be dead. I wouldn’t even think it would need to be hot. Just luke warm and he could be done real quick. Could be an incredibly short session.
If you do try this out, please post and let us know how it went.likeplayingcrapsandbjAweful weekend playing craps. I layed 6 and 8 before the come out, $25 each(vig of $1 after win, $24 will get you $20). The guy hit the 8 then the 6. I went again with just the 8 and he hit it. Famous last words, he can’t hit again. I went again with the 8 he hit it. The dealer looks at me and says you should have been here 10 minutes ago. Then I put $5 on the don’t and he hits 3 7’s. I am down $115. I wait for the next shooter. I decide to play the pass. The guy hit 3 aces, then 2 3’s. Another $25 gone. I am just standing there with my mouth open. The dealer makes some comment about my timing being off. He rolls a six, I go 3 times odds and put 12 on the 8 and 10 on the 5. He sevens out!!! I made it back on my $250 free slot play with job vp 9/6 max $5 and cashed it out. I hit a couple 4 of kind and several full houses. Yesterday I gave it all back. Even the food was bad. And I found 2 spiders in my suitcase. Not a good weekend. Later I played the don’t and slowly went up to about $100 doing 2 $5 don’t on the first 2 rolls with no odds. This time I was not betting the 6/8 lay and would have won ever session. All in the timing. Good stats guys, thanks for runnng them. I am going to try it again this weekend.ahiromu
Edit: I’m a little confused. Why don’t you just use place bets to lose?
I don’t believe place bets to lose are accepted at many places. The Wiz says only a single casino in Australia and some internet casinos have it.Its - Possessive; It’s - ’It is’ / ’It has’; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They’re - ’They are’FleaStiffThis seems a very unwise strategy. If your bankroll is so limited, I would avoid the dark side. If you do want the dark side but have a limited bankroll then a simple DP with one or two DC bets seems more sensible. Laying odds may eat up a good chunk of your bankroll.goatcabin
How to play roulette tips. This seems a very unwise strategy. If your bankroll is so limited, I would avoid the dark side. If you do want the dark side but have a limited bankroll then a simple DP with one or two DC bets seems more sensible. Laying odds may eat up a good chunk of your bankroll.
I don’t think the problem is with the ’side’, but rather the size of the bankroll relative to the size of the bets. With a $200 stake and $48 on the table, it doesn’t take a whole lot of negative variance to wipe you out. The skew is opposite to the right-side skew, but you expect more winning bets than losing ones. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Any strategy can get hammered by the wrong dice rolls - that’s gambling!
Craps Lay Bet StrategyThe original poster might consider making one lay-no-4 bet for $40 or $50 (if $1 vig); that way, you’d expect to win 2 of 3 bets, so you’d have to be even more unlucky to wipe out, but it also means they’d collect the vig more often. Squeeze the balloon on one side, and it bulges out on the other!!!Craps Pressing Strategy
As FleaStiff says, with only $200, you might be better of betting DP, where you can bet the table minimum and pay only 1.4% vig. I recommend laying single odds rather than making Don’t Come bets, because they do not increase the expected loss, whereas DC bets do. At a $10 table, you can bet $10 DP and lay $12, $15 and $20 odds; you never have more than $30 on the table and your average bet is just about $21. That would reduce your chance of busting within a couple of hours to about 20%.
Craps Lay Bet StrategyCheers,
Alan ShankCraps Strategy CardCheers, Alan Shank ’How’s that for a squabble, Pugh?’ Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in ’Yellowbeard’Best Craps Strategy EverStrategy #19Professor H’s Don’t Pass Strategy
Professor H’s method of play on the don’t is intended to accomplish two things:
(1) playing time, and (2) occasional comparatively large wins.
Lay odds progressively, increasing the don’t pass line bet only after reaching the maximum table odds.
To lay odds progressively, use an odds table similar to the one below. This odds table is for use with an initial don’t pass line bet of $5 beginning with 1x odds.
The far left column contains the number of consecutive 7-outs, the line bet, and the odds won in multiples of the line bet.
The columns under the point numbers contain the dollar amount of the odds laid, and, in bold, the payoff on the odds.
This table begins with 1x odds, increasing to 2x after three consecutive 7-outs.
Naturals and craps are ignored when counting consecutive 7-outs.
After the third 7-out in a row, the total amount won increases by one initial line bet ($5 in this case) with each successive win. In other words, row 3 wins a total of $10, row 4 $15, row 5 $20, row 6 $25, row 7 $30, and so on. This progression is conservative, and results from some odds wagers winning fractional multiples of the line bet when the line bet is $10.
Do not make any don’t come bets. (If you have a bankroll large enough to make don’t come bets, begin with 2x or 3x odds, rather than 1x odds.)
After any point is made (won), start over at line 1.
To minimize losses to a run of winning points, either (1) switch to the pass line, playing your favorite pass line method, (2) do not lay odds on the don’t pass line bet, or (3) stop betting on the shooter until he/she sevens-out.
# of
7 - outsFlat DP Bet Odds
Multiplier6- 8
odds amountOdds amount
paid if won5-9
odds amountOdds amount paid if won4-10
odds amountOdds amount paid if won1516596105251659610535165961054521210151020105531815241630156542420302040207553025392650258563630453060309574235543670351058484060408040115954456946904512510605075501005013105605075501005014105.5665584561105515106726090601206016106.57865996613065171078470105701407018107.590751147615075191089680120801608020108.51028512986170852110910890135901809022109.5114951449619095231010120100150100200100
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*How to Play Craps. Craps is a game where many bettors get to stake their chips on a roll of the dice. The table layout makes the game seem a little confusing at first, but the rules are easy to pick up with experience.
*I noticed a betting strategy for craps suggested at Crappers Delight called ’classic regression’. In it he suggests, placing a 6 and 8, after a point is established. Then taking it down after one of them is hit. He said there are 10 combined ways to make the 6 and 8, but only 6 combined ways to make the 7.
*Craps Lay Bet Strategy
*Craps Pressing Strategy
*Craps Lay Bet Strategy
*Craps Strategy Card
*Best Craps Strategy Everlikeplayingcrapsandbj
In new to the forum. But i am a dark player Dont pass and dont come and i lay 4/10. Im looking for a real strategy for laying numbers and also a better dont come approach. Im looking for a lil help on how to approach the bet and if should use a progression or just flat bet it. Any help is great! Best 5 Craps Strategies STRATEGY #1: Using Classic Regression Goal: To earn profit on a single hit. 1) Wait until the shooter establishes a point before placing your bets. 2) Once the point is determined, place $6.00 (two units) on both the 6 and 8 (For a total wager of $12.00). Click on the image above to instantly practice and play free craps in your browser. (Opens in separate window in full screen.). As of 2020, US players are unable to play the craps game listed above. US players please click the banners on the left side (or below for mobile users) to visit free and real-money craps games at US-friendly casinos.This weekend I think I am going to lay only the 6 and 8 for $25 each($50 total) on each come out and either win or let them fall. My bankroll will be $200. If I get a cold table watch out. Hot table I am dead. Any comments?ahiromuI’d be very careful with this strategy, it seems like a sure-fire way to slowly bleed money. If you (lose) one and then seven out, you’re still down $6. Even if you personally get hot, you won’t be making craploads of money.. I think you’d be better off with a don’t pass and one don’t come (a little more strenuous on the bankroll).Its - Possessive; It’s - ’It is’ / ’It has’; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They’re - ’They are’ruascottI’d have to agree. You are making 2 bets with 4% HA and I don’t even see for what reason. The probabilites say that it more than likely that a 6 OR 8 would be rolled before a 7, and therefore you lose. That’s just me though. I HATE betting more than I will win.teddysI like that strategy. Low variance, with the chance to win a bundle if a lot of sevens roll. Plus, you might get rated higher than you would with just line/odds. Let us know how it goes!
Edit: I’m a little confused. Why don’t you just use place bets to lose?’Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe.’ -Rig Veda 10.34.4goatcabin
I’d have to agree. You are making 2 bets with 4% HA and I don’t even see for what reason. The probabilites say that it more than likely that a 6 OR 8 would be rolled before a 7, and therefore you lose. That’s just me though. I HATE betting more than I will win.
1) The HA depends heavily on the rules at the particular casino. If they collect
the vig only after a win, that lowers the HA, but not as much as on buy bets,
since lay bets have >50% chance to win. Also, you are really betting $24 to win
$20, right? If they collect only on a win, they will pay you $19 for a win, take
the $24 if you lose. At this level, the HA is then 2.27%. However, you need to
find out the maximum bet for which they still charge only $1 vig, which may be as high as $36.
2) You are seriously under-capitalized at $200 with $50 on the table. Your risk of ruin is very, very high, about 44% in a sim I ran on WinCraps, 10,000 sessions of up to 60 bets. About 25% of the sessions turned $100 profit or more, up to $774.
I tried an alternate strategy, laying no 6 for $36, assuming a $1 vig collected
only on a win. This yields an HA that is the same as placing the six (1.515%). So, you have a lower HA and less money at risk on each comeout. The bust rate was still high, about 33%, but almost 30% of the time it won at least $100, up to $895, in 60 bets.
The trend towards collecting buy/lay vigs only on a win really tips the scale in favor of buy bets, because they win less than 50% of the time, only 33% for buy 4/10.
Cheers,
Alan ShankCheers, Alan Shank ’How’s that for a squabble, Pugh?’ Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in ’Yellowbeard’ruascott
1) The HA depends heavily on the rules at the particular casino. If they collect
the vig only after a win, that lowers the HA, but not as much as on buy bets,
since lay bets have >50% chance to win. Also, you are really betting $24 to win
$20, right? If they collect only on a win, they will pay you $19 for a win, take
the $24 if you lose. At this level, the HA is then 2.27%. However, you need to
find out the maximum bet for which they still charge only $1 vig, which may be as high as $36.
2) You are seriously under-capitalized at $200 with $50 on the table. Your risk of ruin is very, very high, about 44% in a sim I ran on WinCraps, 10,000 sessions of up to 60 bets. About 25% of the sessions turned $100 profit or more, up to $774.
I tried an alternate strategy, laying no 6 for $36, assuming a $1 vig collected
only on a win. This yields an HA that is the same as placing the six (1.515%). So, you have a lower HA and less money at risk on each comeout. The bust rate was still high, about 33%, but almost 30% of the time it won at least $100, up to $895, in 60 bets.
The trend towards collecting buy/lay vigs only on a win really tips the scale in favor of buy bets, because they win less than 50% of the time, only 33% for buy 4/10.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
I’d agree. I guess that’s why he said if the table was hot he’d be dead. I wouldn’t even think it would need to be hot. Just luke warm and he could be done real quick. Could be an incredibly short session.
If you do try this out, please post and let us know how it went.likeplayingcrapsandbjAweful weekend playing craps. I layed 6 and 8 before the come out, $25 each(vig of $1 after win, $24 will get you $20). The guy hit the 8 then the 6. I went again with just the 8 and he hit it. Famous last words, he can’t hit again. I went again with the 8 he hit it. The dealer looks at me and says you should have been here 10 minutes ago. Then I put $5 on the don’t and he hits 3 7’s. I am down $115. I wait for the next shooter. I decide to play the pass. The guy hit 3 aces, then 2 3’s. Another $25 gone. I am just standing there with my mouth open. The dealer makes some comment about my timing being off. He rolls a six, I go 3 times odds and put 12 on the 8 and 10 on the 5. He sevens out!!! I made it back on my $250 free slot play with job vp 9/6 max $5 and cashed it out. I hit a couple 4 of kind and several full houses. Yesterday I gave it all back. Even the food was bad. And I found 2 spiders in my suitcase. Not a good weekend. Later I played the don’t and slowly went up to about $100 doing 2 $5 don’t on the first 2 rolls with no odds. This time I was not betting the 6/8 lay and would have won ever session. All in the timing. Good stats guys, thanks for runnng them. I am going to try it again this weekend.ahiromu
Edit: I’m a little confused. Why don’t you just use place bets to lose?
I don’t believe place bets to lose are accepted at many places. The Wiz says only a single casino in Australia and some internet casinos have it.Its - Possessive; It’s - ’It is’ / ’It has’; There - Location; Their - Possessive; They’re - ’They are’FleaStiffThis seems a very unwise strategy. If your bankroll is so limited, I would avoid the dark side. If you do want the dark side but have a limited bankroll then a simple DP with one or two DC bets seems more sensible. Laying odds may eat up a good chunk of your bankroll.goatcabin
How to play roulette tips. This seems a very unwise strategy. If your bankroll is so limited, I would avoid the dark side. If you do want the dark side but have a limited bankroll then a simple DP with one or two DC bets seems more sensible. Laying odds may eat up a good chunk of your bankroll.
I don’t think the problem is with the ’side’, but rather the size of the bankroll relative to the size of the bets. With a $200 stake and $48 on the table, it doesn’t take a whole lot of negative variance to wipe you out. The skew is opposite to the right-side skew, but you expect more winning bets than losing ones. Obviously, that didn’t happen. Any strategy can get hammered by the wrong dice rolls - that’s gambling!
Craps Lay Bet StrategyThe original poster might consider making one lay-no-4 bet for $40 or $50 (if $1 vig); that way, you’d expect to win 2 of 3 bets, so you’d have to be even more unlucky to wipe out, but it also means they’d collect the vig more often. Squeeze the balloon on one side, and it bulges out on the other!!!Craps Pressing Strategy
As FleaStiff says, with only $200, you might be better of betting DP, where you can bet the table minimum and pay only 1.4% vig. I recommend laying single odds rather than making Don’t Come bets, because they do not increase the expected loss, whereas DC bets do. At a $10 table, you can bet $10 DP and lay $12, $15 and $20 odds; you never have more than $30 on the table and your average bet is just about $21. That would reduce your chance of busting within a couple of hours to about 20%.
Craps Lay Bet StrategyCheers,
Alan ShankCraps Strategy CardCheers, Alan Shank ’How’s that for a squabble, Pugh?’ Peter Boyle as Mister Moon in ’Yellowbeard’Best Craps Strategy EverStrategy #19Professor H’s Don’t Pass Strategy
Professor H’s method of play on the don’t is intended to accomplish two things:
(1) playing time, and (2) occasional comparatively large wins.
Lay odds progressively, increasing the don’t pass line bet only after reaching the maximum table odds.
To lay odds progressively, use an odds table similar to the one below. This odds table is for use with an initial don’t pass line bet of $5 beginning with 1x odds.
The far left column contains the number of consecutive 7-outs, the line bet, and the odds won in multiples of the line bet.
The columns under the point numbers contain the dollar amount of the odds laid, and, in bold, the payoff on the odds.
This table begins with 1x odds, increasing to 2x after three consecutive 7-outs.
Naturals and craps are ignored when counting consecutive 7-outs.
After the third 7-out in a row, the total amount won increases by one initial line bet ($5 in this case) with each successive win. In other words, row 3 wins a total of $10, row 4 $15, row 5 $20, row 6 $25, row 7 $30, and so on. This progression is conservative, and results from some odds wagers winning fractional multiples of the line bet when the line bet is $10.
Do not make any don’t come bets. (If you have a bankroll large enough to make don’t come bets, begin with 2x or 3x odds, rather than 1x odds.)
After any point is made (won), start over at line 1.
To minimize losses to a run of winning points, either (1) switch to the pass line, playing your favorite pass line method, (2) do not lay odds on the don’t pass line bet, or (3) stop betting on the shooter until he/she sevens-out.
# of
7 - outsFlat DP Bet Odds
Multiplier6- 8
odds amountOdds amount
paid if won5-9
odds amountOdds amount paid if won4-10
odds amountOdds amount paid if won1516596105251659610535165961054521210151020105531815241630156542420302040207553025392650258563630453060309574235543670351058484060408040115954456946904512510605075501005013105605075501005014105.5665584561105515106726090601206016106.57865996613065171078470105701407018107.590751147615075191089680120801608020108.51028512986170852110910890135901809022109.5114951449619095231010120100150100200100
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